governor romney referred, they want to kill romney. this is not a joke. they want to bury him. so i would prepare everybody, or warn everybody, that they better be prepared here. the best advice came from chris matthews. ought to be watching us. calling conservatives nazis or rip dick cheney's heart out, stomp on it, or call laura ingraham a slut. which part of their narrative do they want to adopt from nbc news. >> sean. >> yeah, yeah. you are absolutely right. of course, your warning is very apt. we have been dealing with these people and we have seen thead hom nen attacks and the -- the ad hominem attack and last night, i was finally convinced after being very concerned for a long time that both romney and ryan are very ready for it. they have shown a willingness to fight back and push back. i think for a lot of grassroots conservative base special media, we have wanted to see this. we wanted to see what we didn't see in 2008, with john mccain, where we were cringing and holding our breath because we saw too much capitulation and the benefit of the doubt given to people who